It is easy to have aperfect Caribbean weather for a beach wedding at the sunset gazebo – despite waking up to thunder and lightning! We love that the kids were up close in the action throughout the ceremony. Letting the kids check out the ring exchange up close and getting their hands in the sand […]
The destination wedding of Jessica and John was a simple and elegant, a dream come true for these ocean and travel lovers. On a typical Mexican Caribbean day with blue skies and white clouds, Jessica and John tied the knot on the beach of the Iberostar Resort in the Riviera Maya surrounded by the love and […]
“You’re my greatest adventure” “We started out planning the traditional wedding back home. Searching for the perfect dress, choosing the proper invites, looking for a venue large enough but not to big and a venue with beauty of its own. We needed to decide on colors, flowers, and catering. Do we have a sit down […]
“When we were first trying to decide on a location for our wedding we realized it had to be Mexico. Being able to come back to the place where our roots run deep was amazing. Mexico is so rich in culture, everything from the food, the music, and the people created the perfect setting for […]
The del Sol Team love to work outside of Mexico! Martina previously lived and worked in the Dominican Republic. She introduced us to the gorgeous Paradisus Palma Real Golf & Spa Resort in Punta Cana when she photographed fellow photographers Camila and Gaston. “The Dominican Republic has the most beautiful beaches I’ve seen in my life. It was amazing to […]
Hurricane season in the Riviera Maya brings with it beautiful extremes of weather. Bright sunshine switches with dramatic clouds and short, intense bursts of rain. Sometimes we even have bright sun and rain at the same time! Every year we have hurricane and tropical storm warnings. Though it sounds scary, here in the Mexican Caribbean […]
“Hold on to me as we go. As we roll down this unfamiliar road. And although this wave is stringing us along. Just know you’re not alone. ‘Cause I’m going to make this place your home.” – Phillip Phillips, Home Ashley and Stephen had a beautiful wedding. Gorgeous weather, surrounded by love. What really blew us […]
“The memories and moments spent together play in my head like a big time-lapse of them all. From when we used to talk on myspace “mi guerita” to yesterday having a blast here in Cancun. Thank you for accepting me for who I was 5 years ago and for accepting who I am today. You […]
There are very few (if any) opportunities in life to have all the people you love together in one place, simply for the purpose of fun and spending time together. We jumped on that opportunity! Fortunately our guests did too! #travelforlove Felicia: “We know the time, money, and effort it takes to travel to Mexico […]
Family legacy is a beautiful thing and wonderful to celebrate for a St Simons Island Wedding. Your wedding day is the perfect time to express how much you cherish your family’s love. As you move into the next phase of life it’s a meaningful time to honor previous generations. We often see parents and grandparents wedding […]
“We chose to hold hands and walk down the aisle together in lieu of “tradition,”. It felt more symbolic of the fact that we are in this life together and there was no need for me to be ‘given away’ to someone I already share so much with.” – Crystal Del Sol Photography is an […]
“With our families living in different states, no matter where we had our wedding they would have to travel to come to it. So we thought, what better way to celebrate marrying the love of your life, than to get married on the beautiful white sandy beaches of Cancun, Mexico while drinking the best tequila […]
Raechel and Bobby invited family and friends coming from all sides of the globe. Michigan, Arizona, Seattle, London, and South Africa! How incredible that the first time an entire family vacation together is also a wedding! A family vacationing and bonding over a wedding celebration is the true definition of a “Destination Wedding”. “I haven’t […]
“Tu and I met about 20 years ago and have always been in and out of each other’s lives. We have both seen each other grow up and our friendship grew to become something we both never expected. Two years ago we decided to give our relationship a try, and I love him so much […]
You can see Ashley and Matt’s Wedding Highlights Video here “We decided very early on in our relationship that a traditional wedding just wasn’t for us. The thought of being able to get married in a beautiful place, not too far of a trip from home, and in front of our closest family and friends […]
“It is because of you, that I know how to truly love.” Del Sol Photography is an approved vendor for Wedding Secrets Akumal luxury photo and video services – no vendor fee to hire us! Contact us to plan your travel and book room blocks at Secrets Akumal. Our sister company Del Sol Travels is […]
“We knew from the moment that we became engaged that we wanted to have a destination wedding. We love to travel and loved the idea of spending a once in a lifetime vacation with all of our closest friends and family to help us celebrate our marriage. We knew that we wanted to provide our […]
“I wanted a wedding with lots of Mexican vibe… less tradition, more my personality: romantic with a bit of rock and roll!” “When I told my mom we were gonna have skulls she was really unsure. But that’s US, our personality and style so we did what we wanted and it all came together and looked […]
“It is SO important to sit back and take everything in. Enjoy every second and everyone who is there to celebrate with you.” – Casey + Zac Casey and Zac told us they wanted a very intimate, romantic setting to celebrate the beginning of their life together. They decided on being with closest friends and family rather than a full on […]
Del Sol Photography is an approved vendor for Dreams Riviera Cancun Weddings luxury photo and video services – no vendor fee to hire us! Contact us to plan your travel and book room blocks at Dreams Riviera Cancun. Our sister company Del Sol Travels is a full-service travel agency – we offer this at no […]
You can see Pamella and Nick’s Wedding Highlights Video here “the best days of my life were the the day I said I love you, the days our children were born, and the day I knew I was going to marry you” – Nick’s Vows Lots of family love in this beach club wedding. Pamella and […]
Hotel Esencia is one of the most beautiful properties in all of the Riviera Maya. Formerly Esencia was a house made for an Italian Duchess, today the property has been renovated as one of the finest boutique hotels in Xpu Beach. We were delighted to meet Mary and Donald at Esencia for their beach trash the […]
A resting place for Julie, a Cenote Tribute Ceremony Experience. Kutrina’s mother Julie passed away in Canada and she wanted to do something special to say goodbye. Kutrina decided to take Julie’s ashes and her three beautiful children to Mexico for an experience they will never forget. She asked us to plan an adventure to […]
“Having a destination wedding was the best decision. It provided us with more than an amazing wedding day, but an entire wedding week making lifelong memories with the people that mean the most to us.”- Royalton Riviera Cancun Wedding Lori and Steve love to travel. They visited the Riviera Maya on their first ‘dating anniversary’ and fell […]
“I vow to listen, for as long as it takes for you to feel heard, I vow to watch in awe as you kick a** and take names. I vow to be your unrelenting cheer squad on the days it feels like too much.” – Michael’s Vows Kris and Michael’s wedding was an awesome mix […]
Belmond Casa Sierra de Nevada is a cluster of buildings at the Center of the prettiest Mexican Town: San Miguel de Allende. The Belmond is a boutique hotel and always gives me that “I’m home” feeling. Everything is cozy, beautiful and within walking distance from the everything you might want to experience. The Belmond Casa Sierra de Nevada […]
Rosy and Lazaro chose to celebrate their wedding day in their Cancun apartment at Porto Fino Condominios. The wedding day had the relaxed feel that comes from being in your own home with everything taken care of with love by family and friends. There are so many thing to love about Rosy and Lazaros wedding. For us the […]
Tiffany and Tien took a break from a BIG reunion holiday of 50 family members for their engagement portrait session. We love to photograph newly engaged couples. Marriage may be until death do you part, but an engagement is a finite and super special moment in time. An engagement portrait session is a really fun way to […]
Candle light and romance go hand in hand. The soft golden glow of candles creates an intimate and warm atmosphere is everything for Candle Boutique Weddings. Candles can be elegant or bohemian and they are a great idea for your destination wedding reception decor! One of our favorite vendors is the amazing Marcos Cazaux, owner of the […]
We took Therese and Shiraan away from their pre-wedding venue visit for a Playa del Carmen Engagement Sessions. The rain had been absolutely HAMMERING down in the hours before, but stopped to leave us with empty beaches, an eye-popping turquoise ocean and rich blue skies. Therese’s little red dress added the final splash of color. “The photographs are AMAZING… we […]
A destination wedding is a whirlwind. Not only are you hosting a wedding, you’re hosting a week-long party for your nearest and dearest. This comes with the feeling of responsibility; of being a hostess, of ensuring your family and friends are met with activities and options, that they feel welcomed and entertained. It was phenomenal […]
“Some say “when life gives you lemons, make lemonade!”…We say “when life gives you rain, head to the Wine Cellar!” – Chantal “My Husband Rich and I love to travel. It’s one of our favorite things to do as a couple. When we became engaged, we knew that we wanted our wedding to be a […]
“There are several kinds of love. One is a selfish, mean, grasping, egotistical thing which uses love for self-importance. This is the ugly and crippling kind. The other is an outpouring of everything good in you — of kindness and consideration and respect — not only the social respect of manners but the greater respect […]
Krissia and Shane chose the fabulous Hacienda el Secreto for their wedding day. They told us they loved its private location and beautiful villas and who could resist a location that is called “secret beach”!. “Hacienda del Secreto is right on the beach and is a private residence so there are very few other people in the area. […]
“There is nothing in the world so irresistibly contagious as laughter and good humor.” ― Charles Dickens Del Sol Photography is an approved vendor for Now Sapphire – there is no fee to hire us! Contact us to plan your travel and book room blocks at Now Sapphire. Our sister company Del Sol Travels is […]
Del Sol Photography: Hola Jenna, it would be awesome if you could explain your idea for your session! A day to celebrate the beauty and strength of women. My hope was to capture the warmth of friendship, the powerfulness, beauty and strength of each woman, and to use body art to allow us to express […]
Text in English below… “AMO Viajar, sobre todo AMO descubrir Mexico, es mi compromiso enseñar al mundo su belleza a traves de mis foto-aventuras” – Michoacan Monarch Butterfly Adventure #Aworldofitsown #DondeAndaSol … Es temporada de la Mariposa Monarca en Michoacan! Unos amigos me invitan a ir, así que entusiasmada visualizo el escenario y me apunto […]
In the Summer of 2016, the UNESCO declared the Archipiélago de Revillagigedo #Aworldofitsown, a world heritage site in Mexico Texto en español abajo Living a life close to Nature is the best thing that could ever happen to me. The more I immerse myself in nature, my conscious about the planet and the connection we all […]
Wedding Photobombs Anticipar – Preparar – Disparar Anticipation – Preparation – Shoot *english version below Las fotos inesperadas son algo genial! Y son capturadas cuando estamos en el lugar adecuado y listos.. cuando sucede lo que va a suceder. Esta foto del padrino haciendo un photoboom al procesional es de mis favoritas en la vida – por todo lo que […]
There is nothing more endearing than a man giving his all to make his (future) wife a happy woman. Before their wedding Jackie told Jay that couples often write each other a special note to read before the ceremony. Jay pretty much knocked it out of the park – embrace these wedding day traditions boys, the simplest, sweetest […]
What happens when you mix Persian and Latin in a new family? “Lots of food & hugs!!!!” Sanctuary Cap Cana Dominican Republic Wedding “When Manny and I first met we had no idea how similar our cultures actually were. Both Persian and Latin cultures have a strong focus on close family ties, respect, and hard work.” […]
“The most amazing part of the day was the first look, and our vows. We wrote our vows all by ourselves that very morning, just sitting in chairs opposite of each other and enjoying being in such a beautiful place with all of our friends and family here to celebrate. We would look at each […]
“Me being a beach lover and Manny being from a place with some of the most beautiful beaches in the world made for a perfect combination!” – Lilly – Sanctuary Cap Cana beach portraits Lilly and Manny’s wedding day plans did not include them touching the sand. They had chosen a beautiful corner of the […]
Del Sol Photography is a preferred vendor for Akumal Bay Beach and Wellness Resort weddings for luxury photo and video services – that means there is no vendor fee to hire us! Jason and I share a passion for the outdoors and for travel, and this is what we wanted to share with our families and friends […]
“The whole week at Now Sapphire was perfect. We really loved the fact that we were able to spend quality time with our guests since we do not get to see them often. Seeing all of our friends from different times in our lives was also special for us. We felt grateful that so many […]
De Sol Photography specializes in Same Sex Cinque Terre Italian portrait sessions. One of the advantages of having an international team here at del Sol is that we get to know different parts of the word via our fellow photographers. Cinque Terre – “The Five Lands” in the Ligura region of Italy. Cinque Terre is a National Park […]
“When I imagined our wedding day, just the two of us, I would have to catch my breath and hold back the happy tears. There was something so calming thinking the only person I am doing my hair for, putting my dress on for & reading my vows to was him :) I’ll never, ever […]
Can and Zhoushi came from China for a trip to Cuba and to travel around the Quintana Roo. Can’s cousin Lola, also vacationing with them, had the awesome idea to give Can a pre-wedding trash the dress session with Sol as a gift. She thought it would be very special to take wedding pictures with the ruins and nature. “Trash […]
“Fue hermoso poder compartir el amor que vivimos esa noche con los seres que más amamos y darles a nuestros padres la mayor de las felicidades” Maru y German nos compartieron que escogieron el Iberostar Cancun para el día de su boda por la combinación de su jardín con el azul turquesa del mar. La atmósfera dulce, romántica y bohemia, fue solo […]
“It is tradition to get married in the bride’s hometown, but because we went another route, I wanted a way to personalize our wedding. It was a very intimate ceremony (though we didn’t write our vows…we’re terrible!! haha) so instead we personalized our wedding by having Marcus’ father give a blessing to us and blessing our […]
“My parents have always tried to bring us up to respect and cherish our heritage. When it came to our wedding day, I wanted to embrace this and I’m lucky enough to have a WONDERFUL wife that loves my heritage as much as me. “The white wedding on the beach was for us. It was […]
“My Allan and I both felt like we were in a surreal world sensual and erotic. We loved the little fish and the light streaming through the water. We had to empty our lungs and relax to stay underwater, after realizing this trick it became easier to be underwater and I did feel like a […]
“Keep it simple – the wedding is just a party and that something unimportant will go wrong and make a wedding story to tell. The important part is the after. It’s all about every day after together, sharing love support and that feeling when you hold each other: when his touch lights you up and […]
Kim and Allan chose Case La Roca in Puerto Aventuras for their wedding day. Before the day itself they invited us for a family portrait session. “We have not had family portraits in a few years and wanted portraits taken that week to be our gift to our children siblings and parents with the beautiful scenery […]
Contact us to plan your own mermaid family portraits photoshoot “I love being able to make my girl’s dreams come true. Love that with small details, their imagination can make great things.” – Enrique We love new experiences and fresh ideas, so we were delighted when Enrique, #1 in the running for Best Dad in the […]
“My husband told me a very cute story. He said he heard the staff saying, “The bride is walking across the bridge, she looks beautiful”. He had no idea what my dress looked like and I approached him through a beautiful trail lined with trees. I could see him, but he couldn’t see me. The […]
“Promising to love you, is like promising pizza I will always love it, or air I will always breathe it, or water I will always drink it. Jessica, you are my air, you are my water, you are my pizza!” – Adam’s vows – Beach Palace Cancun Wedding Writing your own vows is a sweet and […]
“You don’t have to have a ceremony to have a marriage and when you think about it the whole thing is kind of odd. You’re standing under an arch, holding flowers and being stared at by pretty much everyone who has meant anything to you while you say some words and listen to some music […]
“Jamie and I couldn’t have been happier with our choice to have a destination wedding… our advice would be for everyone to do the same :) We had such a great time getting to spend an entire weekend with family and friends for our wedding celebration instead of just a few hours!!” Del Sol Photography […]
“We wanted something unique and completely different from traditional wedding pictures.” – Lyndsey and Matthew Lyndsay and Matthew joined Sol in her secret superhero cave and were blessed with epic light rays! The joy of the cenotes is that every time we visit them, we discover them in a different light and often nature reveals some beautiful surprises. “We […]
Many of our clients are entrepreneurs who are looking for that killer business profile photo or that corporate headshot with a twist. Enter Amanda and Jeremiah, two amazing people and past clients of del Sol Photography. They know the difference between looking good and looking fabulous and they want the same for their amazing new […]
“We were looking for a special beach… somewhere where we didn’t feel constricted by time limit, or space limit. I think that’s how our personalities are!” Moni and Phil chose the incredible Island of Isla de la Pasión – literally “Passion Island” for their wedding day. For hardcore beach lovers like Moni and Phil, Isla de la Pasión is […]
“An elopement is such a personal event that takes its own shape with the two individuals sharing their vows. Make it your own… don’t listen or conform to the normality of tradition” – Erika and Saif Del Sol Photography is an approved vendor for Nizuc Resort Cancun Weddings luxury photo services – no vendor fee […]
“My parents and step-parents have all played a part in raising me, and it was important to me to have their blessing in mine and Shawn’s marriage. What better way than to ask them to walk me down the aisle and give me away? I could not have imagined my wedding day without the four […]
Those who really love, love in silence, with deeds and not with words – La Sombra del Viento, Carlos Ruiz Zafón Nubia and George brought family and friends together in the beautiful, private beach of Soliman bay in the villa ‘Sombras del Viento’ – meaning ‘Shadows of the Wind’. The private villa and the idyllic surroundings were an amazing place for the […]
“There were so many amazing moments that day, but one that I will remember forever was dancing under the stars with our closest friends and family, listening to the waves of the ocean just a few feet away. That was the movement we realized that our dream of a fun, intimate beach wedding had come true.” – Heather […]
“I am so happy that you are to be my bride today. Remember to breathe. Look at me (I’ll be the guy trying not to ugly cry) We got this.” – Mark Time goes by at light speed on the wedding day and we quickly realize we are left with only memories, hopefully in photos, as […]
Many spring breakers are counting on what happens in Cancun staying there! We’re here to tell you that if you get married in the Mexican Caribbean you’re going to take that home! That is why we chose to have a Secrets Maroma Wedding in the Riviera Maya Mexico – in Playa del Carmen #Aworldofitsown Del […]
“I promise to celebrate all the highs and to lift you up through all of the lows” – Adam’s Vows “During our ceremony, the officiant asked us what else we might wish for to make our wedding day more perfect. That is when we realized we were surrounded by loved ones in a Mexican paradise. […]
“What meant the most to us was the fact that so many close friends and family traveled so far to be with us on our special day. The great turnout of all of these special people is what touched us most.” – Nizuc Akan Terrace Wedding -Suzanne + Michael Suzanne and Michael chose the Akan Terrace […]
“Destination weddings are an absolute blast, however there are a multitude of scenarios that pop up and the question of “who will be able to make the trip?” was at the top of my list! “Of course I wanted EVERYONE invited to share this joyous occasion with us (including my French bulldog and weenie dog) […]
Isla Mujeres is one of the most perfect beaches for a wedding with a truly Caribbean feel. Ashley and Levi had a beautiful ceremony with many personalized details, most notably their officiant: their high school Spanish teacher! While in his class Ashley and Levi would jokingly flirt back and forth and he would always join in on […]
Lots of family love in this portrait session to commemorate a 50th Wedding Anniversary – congratulations grandma and grandpa! Principal Photographer: Sol Second Photographer: del Sol Associate Location: Belmond Maroma
8 miles off the coast of Cancun is is the incredible island of Isla Mujeres. Only half a mile wide, this slice of Caribbean island life is an amazing location for a portrait session. Brightly colored murals and a lot of local charm makes Isla Mujeres a super fun place to shoot – and of course an amazing location […]
“I didn’t believe that I could find a man who would remind me every day to dream bigger, to work harder and to open my heart to all the possibilities of this beautiful life.” – Janelle’s Wedding Dream Sands Cancun One of the wedding day traditions that we love to capture is the exchange of […]
You can see Tanya and Franco’s Wedding Highlights Video here In amongst the grand gestures and general wedding day chaos, there are quiet moments and thoughtful details that are maybe the most meaningful and telling of a couples love. We have to applaud Franco for one of the most beautiful and meaningful gestures we have seen :) “On […]
Do you remember your first kiss? Julie and Donald get our ultimate “awww” vote for sweet loveliness: they can say that they married the first person they ever kissed – all together now: “aaaawwwwwww!” Although they went their different ways and lived their own lives post kiss, it makes the story all the sweeter knowing that when they […]
“I am not a girl who has imagined her wedding her entire life, the only thing I knew was that there would be an open bar :) I am so happy, because I would’ve been limited to my imagination – our wedding exceeded anything we could’ve ever dreamed of!” – Rebecca Rebecca and Paulo brought […]
“We had planned this trip with friends to go back to near where we got married and it happened to be around the time of our 5 year anniversary. So I wanted to surprise Claire with a little informal fun. Having our daughter with us, and the kids of our friends, was just so cool […]
‘The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.’ – Mark Twain It is said that the most important days of your life are your wedding day and the day your children are born. We are super privileged to be asked to document […]
“Sometimes the rain can be good to bring people together and reflect on what is most important in your life, which is your friends and family!” – Bryce Rain and indeed even the threat of it has the reputation of putting a damper on a wedding day – but it shouldn’t be so! Time and again […]
A smooth sea never made a skillful sailor – English proverb and favorite quote of Brandi and Denton The quotes couples choose say so much about their outlook on life. Brandi and Denton wore anchor bracelets as a nod to the proverb they try to live their lives by. Life’s challenges are indeed the things that help us learn and grow, so we […]
Once upon a time, there was a woman who loved the water and the ocean so much that found a way to stay in it for eternity. Underwater day of the dead Catrina Calavera Mermaid She became The Mermaid Catrina… she can be found in the ocean, in the cenotes… wearing a red tail and painting the […]
“The shaman who performed our Mayan ceremony really touched our hearts. He told us that we were brought together for a reason, something we always knew ourselves.” – Hannah There are many different ways to get married, to celebrate love and symbolize commitment. We especially love to photograph Mayan ceremonies, not only do they pay homage to the culture […]
Sharks are perfectly designed, beautiful creatures and vital for the equilibrium of the marine ecosystem. – Great White Shark Dive #aworldofitsown – Guadalupe Island Sharks, especially the Great White are portrayed in the media as man eaters when in reality is the other way around. Man is killing sharks at an alarming speed, killing them for their fins. […]
Original concept, photographs and text: Sol Tamargo “La Novia de Mexico” conjuga nuestra pasión por crear, innovar, nuestro amor por México y nuestra mision como Embajadores del Romance. Visualizo la creación de un proyecto que del Sol realice en todos los estados de México, creando un look unico de acuerdo a la cultura popular de cada […]
I found it funny how everyone wanted to comfort me because it rained thinking I would be upset – but I know only those who are truly blessed have it rain on their wedding day. I imagined the rain drops were tears of happiness from Heaven from our relatives who passed away and were with us in spirit.” – […]
ride or die to be down with your husband or wife no matter what, through it all the good and the bad “That’s my ride or die husband 4 life” – The Urban Dictionary What are the words that mean the most? We often ask our couples to share a quote with a special meaning or to […]
A wife of noble character who can find? She is worth far more than rubies. – Proverbs 31:10 “The Wife of Noble Character describes who Brandi is, who she wants to be, and who she will be.” – Jubba Hard Rock Riviera Maya beach Wedding Weddings are unique collections of words, traditions, family legacy, love… […]
#PorqueHayMasdeloBonito = “Because there is MORE Beauty”. It is one of my favorite hashtags and way of seeing things. – Sol LOVE to travel LOVE to Explore, LOVE to shoot.. and LOVE to make other people realice the beauty that surrounds them, and when talking about photographers, love to inspire them to go out, explore […]
Ahh the twins! To be honest, I could not have imagined a better way to say my vows than with one of them in my arms. They are my identity now, and the very reason why we love each other so much. – Sammy Kids at weddings – to invite or not to invite? Sammy […]
The most amazing moment was when all of friends and family came together on the dance floor. Coming from two different backgrounds and seeing everyone out there with one common interest, music, was amazing. – Brandi Brandi is a lucky lady, she snagged herself a Mexican husband – well, we are allowed to be biased sometimes […]
To Brett, you are my best friend, the one I turn to for everything. I couldn’t ask for a better partner for life or lover of my soul. I can’t wait to see you! Love your wife! – Ryan Brides and grooms who exchange handwritten notes on their wedding day is one of the sweetest […]
“In Mexico, you don’t need to have a ton of flowers or a beautiful botanical garden… Everywhere is beautiful! What better back drop than the Caribbean ocean for the best day of our lives?” #travelforlove “Neither of us are religious, and we felt like there wasn’t any place special enough to us in St. Louis […]
“Our Trash the Dress was our private second wedding. Pure connection, no one around, just our emotional expression captured on camera by Del Sol Photography.” – Lina and Serge “At first we wanted to have unique pictures to signify our wedding day, but after our first photo session a year ago, we realized it was […]
We were both asked if we were nervous over a dozen times on our wedding day. I replied the same way every time: “Not at all!” Although we were hoping that everything on the schedule would go smoothly, it was more important for us to enjoy this special day in our love story. Our excitement […]
“Engagement photos? Do we really have to do this? Just crop my face and stick it on invite…” That was the initial thought running through our heads as we are getting ready for the wedding, planning the trip, and deciding on the atmosphere of the wedding. Well, I guess we kind of have to. Did […]